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Rubbin

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HAHAHA, I swear this guy actually had eyebrows at some stage. Not sure what happened to that layer. How did I miss that before uploading?

Nevermind, move along people. Someone else is bound to upload a complete picture sometime.

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Yay, good stuff. I looks like you have done something with the lighting thing I was talking about.
I looks very claustrofobic, small room and lots of water.
How do you like it yourself?

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I feel it came out pretty well. I did try some of that lighting stuff, using the water color in the reflections on his face. it makes the image look more 'alive', for lack of a better word at the moment. Thanks.

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OMG, someone throw him a rope!
Looks great Rubin, good job! I'm kinda glad I can't see the look in his eyes actually, I have a fear of drowning! If the water just keeps rising, he's in trouble.
Here's my 10 cents of advise, see what other people think.
I'm seeing a pattern with your patterns. In the desert sands and the water here, even the hair here, I see patterns that are very repedative. Nature isn't usually so steady, try throwing variations into the patterns you create? Just a thought. Maybe you're trying to bring out and enhance the patterns, in which case, bravo, well done! Actually, I see a case where this is working out in your favor, the teeth are great!
BTW, the lighting is pretty good here and quite interesting, just curious, is it night in this picture? :)

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Thanks Andrew. Since I started painting in PS, the first technique I basically worked on was to define shapes using light and dark values. I think I kind of have the hang of it now, but as you noticed, everything is starting to look a bit 'paint by numbers'. I have to now work on other things that'll make the pictures more interesting and/or realistic. Ligthing seems to be one of them, and yes, the shapes are simple and repetitive - should work on that too!

He's supposed to be trapped in the last air pocket of a small enclosure, and the water is rising of course! It is fairly dark, except for some underwater light somewhere that makes the water glow and radiate light. Didn't really capture that to good effect. The walls and ceiling need some reflections, and drawing glowing, opaque water is harder than I thought it would be.

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I think what Andrew is talking about also will help you get more depth in your sketches,
The waves seem to be about the same size over hte whole sketch,
if you would make them smaller in the back, you'll get more depth.

A lightsource from below is really great for a dramatic mood,
just check what your own face looks like when your put a torcchlight under it.
And the blue colors will make it look even more dramatic.

I hope you don't mind getting lectures all the time about how to redo your sketches.
I think you did a good job with the luminosity, reflecting hte blue on the face.
Just keep practicing that a few times, then you'll get hte hang of it,
and get a better understanding of how it works.
I appriciate your willingness to learn!

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I don't mind at all. It makes the learning easier and quicker when I get some feedback. As you said, I just need to keep practicing. I think I'll copy some dramatically lit references just to get an understanding of how things work. By things I mean how details fade with distance, how light reflects off surfaces and in this case what water actually looks like.

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Hmpf! Eyebrows are for sissies! =P

Hey Rubbin!, My man, where's the water webbing? =D
seeing as the light source is from the bottom, the water would cast highlighting edges
off of the waves little crescents and project onto the top of the enclosure/pocket

If you want, I'll do a little bit of water/light webbing and PhotoBucket it for you.
( oh, and I'll show the tools used! )

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By the way, this rocks my socks!

Making the viewer feel claustrophobic is a hard thing to do,
but you made me hold my breath for a little bit when I imagined
this fine fellow struggling to breath..

a little fact for you guys who've never been trapped,
(not that I have, but you never know who has a evil dominating girlfriend/wife/lover.)
breathing air from an air pocket is hard, becuase of the inherent pressure involved.

try sitting in a bath or pool of water about one metre under the water with your head in a bucket
and breathing a full breath, you'll see what I mean.

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Rubbin, I only pick on you because I care! :)
Just kidding, I'm relatively new working with Photoshop to, that's why I'm here, because daily practice is the best way to learn, and everyone else is like built in teachers. I just wish I got more advise.... (hint hint)
Actually, this is just like art school was for me, alot of art being done and teachers that weren't around much.
When they were around, they encouraged, but had little advise to give. (Not to offend anyone, a few teachers in art school used to really piss me off. Ya know when you're spending thousands of dollars to learn under a painting teacher and all they can do is say, "You're doing good work, keep it up" Or, "I don't feel you're expressing yourself honestly here, look inside yourself and paint what you see.)
What a waist of time school is if the teachers don't care.
Anyways, like I said, I care Rubbin, keep up the good work! ;P

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Don't do what Helix said with the bucket. You can get an air embolism that way. Trust me. I know a SCUBA diver.

Also, "trust me, I know a SCUBA diver," is a great way to drive home any point, SCUBA related or not.

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Ben: Dude! Who the hell would try a thing like that?, I've done it, and serves me right for almost passing out.
luckily my friends were there, I felt so weak I couldn't even get out of the pool.

Thanks for the heads up Ben, I didn't think anyone would be stupid enough to try it.

Truth on the Scuba Diver part, Mr. Heinneman from Mythbusters is a dive master if I remember correctly.

SERIOUSLY GUYS, NO BUCKET BREATHING, OKAY!

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a tip from me:
since water is sort of transparent, and the light source is coming from the water outwards, we should also see the submerged part of the guy

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I hear you. Truth is, I'm really terrible at drawing figures, so I just let that slide.

Here's an updated version

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj124/Rubbin_bucket/waterrising3.jpg

Changed the water and added some reflections. Couldn't do much for his face though, I think he's just too ugly to ever look good.

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the first step in succeeding to draw figures (or anything else) is trying

just try it on a different layer
ill bet you it would tonnes better

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btw the updated version looks better

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Yeah, good progress dude, nice work on the update.
Keep flipping and ripping those pages of your sketchbook.

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